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	<title>Comments on: Baselines, checkpoints and process maturity</title>
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		<title>By: plasetaus</title>
		<link>http://blog.sarabura.com/2010/04/05/baselines/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
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		<title>By: Andy Hayward</title>
		<link>http://blog.sarabura.com/2010/04/05/baselines/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I didn&#039;t mean to imply that the definition of baseline in Requirements Management is The Definition. In fact I think that baseline isn&#039;t really a good word for the-point-after-which-change-control-is-enforced, and furthermore between different schools in RM the word baseline is used for a few different concepts. I&#039;ve heard people refer to the initial assessment of a project&#039;s business and project objectives as the Requirement Baseline, meaning a starting point or an outline. I&#039;ve heard people say &#039;baselining requirements,&#039; to mean assessing project scope and getting a draft list of use cases or user stories.

What I was trying to say was that I agree that the term &#039;baseline&#039; should be clearly defined in a process or system that spans different traditional areas of project work. Conflicting terminology is a common problem when trying to move from a development process and systems that are developed for groups in silos, like RM, SCM, Test Management, Project management, to an ALM approach. If you pitch an ALM process or system that uses baseline as defined in your post, without first clearly defining to RM practitioners and Project Managers what baseline means in this context, you will at the least get a lot of confused looks, at worst get a lot of resistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that the definition of baseline in Requirements Management is The Definition. In fact I think that baseline isn&#8217;t really a good word for the-point-after-which-change-control-is-enforced, and furthermore between different schools in RM the word baseline is used for a few different concepts. I&#8217;ve heard people refer to the initial assessment of a project&#8217;s business and project objectives as the Requirement Baseline, meaning a starting point or an outline. I&#8217;ve heard people say &#8216;baselining requirements,&#8217; to mean assessing project scope and getting a draft list of use cases or user stories.</p>
<p>What I was trying to say was that I agree that the term &#8216;baseline&#8217; should be clearly defined in a process or system that spans different traditional areas of project work. Conflicting terminology is a common problem when trying to move from a development process and systems that are developed for groups in silos, like RM, SCM, Test Management, Project management, to an ALM approach. If you pitch an ALM process or system that uses baseline as defined in your post, without first clearly defining to RM practitioners and Project Managers what baseline means in this context, you will at the least get a lot of confused looks, at worst get a lot of resistance.</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that once a baseline has been applied to a document it usually restricts the types of modifications that can be applied to the document going forward. However I think that a single definition for baseline is too restrictive. I see no reason why there can&#039;t be more than two states for a document - that is, before baseline and after baseline. With modern process engines you can have multiple such states such as open (all modifications allowed), restricted (requires process control), in verification (for trace auditing and feedback), final review, and published. The nice thing about having more states is it becomes a bit easier to track the project&#039;s progress towards completion since the scale has finer granularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that once a baseline has been applied to a document it usually restricts the types of modifications that can be applied to the document going forward. However I think that a single definition for baseline is too restrictive. I see no reason why there can&#8217;t be more than two states for a document &#8211; that is, before baseline and after baseline. With modern process engines you can have multiple such states such as open (all modifications allowed), restricted (requires process control), in verification (for trace auditing and feedback), final review, and published. The nice thing about having more states is it becomes a bit easier to track the project&#8217;s progress towards completion since the scale has finer granularity.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hayward</title>
		<link>http://blog.sarabura.com/2010/04/05/baselines/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a &quot;what is a baseline&quot; discussion a few times in the office. The problem stems from the fact that the term baseline has a specific meaning when dealing with requirements, and it is slightly different from what you&#039;ve described above.

The &quot;baseline&quot; in requirements management, according to the likes of the Booch/Jacobson/Rumbaugh trio and others, is taken when the initial elicitation and analysis has been completed and the initial requirements have been approved. The requirements are &#039;frozen,&#039; which is also not a very clear term, because they can still be changed after the baseline. Really, what taking a baseline means in most schools of requirements management is starting to apply some form of change control process on the requirements. From a Project Management perspective, especially in more traditional waterfall development shops, when the baseline has been taken, it&#039;s relatively safe for development staff to start working with confidence that the requirements are unlikely to suddenly change drastically.

So, if you are working on a project and you start talking about taking multiple baselines some people, particularly business analysts and some project managers, get quite agitated. As you said, it&#039;s important to be clear to the participants what the definition of a baseline is in the context of the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a &#8220;what is a baseline&#8221; discussion a few times in the office. The problem stems from the fact that the term baseline has a specific meaning when dealing with requirements, and it is slightly different from what you&#8217;ve described above.</p>
<p>The &#8220;baseline&#8221; in requirements management, according to the likes of the Booch/Jacobson/Rumbaugh trio and others, is taken when the initial elicitation and analysis has been completed and the initial requirements have been approved. The requirements are &#8216;frozen,&#8217; which is also not a very clear term, because they can still be changed after the baseline. Really, what taking a baseline means in most schools of requirements management is starting to apply some form of change control process on the requirements. From a Project Management perspective, especially in more traditional waterfall development shops, when the baseline has been taken, it&#8217;s relatively safe for development staff to start working with confidence that the requirements are unlikely to suddenly change drastically.</p>
<p>So, if you are working on a project and you start talking about taking multiple baselines some people, particularly business analysts and some project managers, get quite agitated. As you said, it&#8217;s important to be clear to the participants what the definition of a baseline is in the context of the project.</p>
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